Finally, we are able to have the great, amazing, always desired, Rev. Dr. Eric Ledermann. We only say, “finally,” because Eric has been itching to get on the podcast for many, many years. It is a very rigorous vetting process. Eric is the pastor of the University Presbyterian Church in Tempe, Arizona.

Jonathan is back on his usual anti-Christmas kick going on about how we celebrate too much too early and how we all should be struggling and suffering a little more for the sake of our faith. The Advent Challenge is an interesting one.

Eric wants people to obey traffic rules. Not just because it is right and important, but because it is the Christian thing to do. Be aware of others and share the road!

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Next Episode – either scripture or deep conversation – it depends on what gets done first